Missing Books and the Thief on the Cross | Lost Books | Immortality of the Soul
Posted on 10 May 2012 04:39 PM
I am sure you are aware that there are 2 books missing from the Bible and that the Catholic Church in Rome has them, I can get the names of the books from the local Priest. A Jewish Professor using a computer program back in the 70's found that the bible had a pattern to it and that parts were missing. I am now more than convinced that the Bible has been tampered with. In 2000 the chief Rabbi had a discussion with the Pope in Rome, the first time a Jew of Standing has been granted a audience with the Pope since the death of Christ, JESUS. I don't know if he was ever given the missing books as the Pope died and Benedict the 16th took his place. I have already noted a difference in this Popes attitude, when I was in Australia in 2008 the re-enaction of the crucifix was re-enacted and Jesus said to one of the theives crucified with him "that before this day ends i will see you in my fathers mansions". This leaves a multitude of Questions do you go straight to Heaven and be judged or lie dormant in the earth until the second coming ? Who has the knowledge to answer thsi as NO ONE except JESUS has ever returned from death.
Regarding missing books from the Bible, they aren't in the Old Testament, because Jesus often quoted OT writers and He never mentioned any discrepancies. They aren't in the New Testament, because John wrote the last book (the gospel of John) and he never mentioned missing books, either. This idea of missing books has been circulating for centuries, and it well suits the enemy of souls, who doesn't want anyone to trust in the Bible. There are so many arguments out there as to why the Bible is unreliable, yet God is hardly powerless. He has protected His Word to His people throughout human history. The Rosetta stone and the Dead Sea scrolls prove its accuracy has been maintained, though many liberties have been taken in the recent translations. That is why we urge the use of the King James version, which is the most trustworthy translation. You must be aware Satan does not want people to know what God has to say to them. The Bible exposes Satan's plans and methods; naturally he wants to shake your trust in God's Scriptures.
Besides that, if the pope has 2 missing books which he won't share with the world, what kind of spiritual leader does that make him? We'd be back in the Dark Ages, when the papal church threatened the death penalty upon anyone who owned a Bible. A church which claims infallibility has far to go in explaining why there was no error in that edict.
Concerning your question related to the thief on the cross, there is a simple explanation. When the Bible was written, no punctuation was used. When the Bible was translated in AD 1611 from the original Hebrew and Greek into English (King James Version), punctuation was added. BUT! Because of errors that had come into the church through the influence of paganism about what happens when we die, the understanding of that verse was not correct, so the comma was put in the wrong place. Here is the very verse you mentioned, punctuated two different ways which causes two entirely different meanings. Be sure to pause where the comma is when you read them:
Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. (In other words, today I'm going to paradise and you're going with me.)
Verily I say unto thee to day, thou shalt be with me in paradise. (In other words, I'll tell you today something you want to hear. You'll be with me in paradise.)
Did Jesus go straight to heaven when He died? Not at all. He rested (slept) in the grave over the Sabbath, and rose on Sunday morning. After His resurrection, He told Mary, "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." John 20:17.
When we die, we "sleep" in the grave, unknowing, till resurrection. "For the living know that they shall die, but the dead know not anything; neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun." Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6. David wrote, "The dead praise not the Lord. In the grave, neither any that go down into silence." Ps 115:17. Ps 146:4 says, "His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." Finally, Job 14:12, 21 reads, "So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shal not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not." So death is a sleep, as Jesus said of the buried Lazarus, "He sleepeth."
Thus there is NO evidence for a soul living on in conscious awareness after death except Satan's lie to Eve: "Thou shalt not surely die" if you disobey God and eat this fruit. The idea of an immortal soul stems from that very lie, and is a central pillar of pagan beliefs.
The Bible teaches us how Adam was made: "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Gen 2:7. The MAN IS THE SOUL, or living being. The Bible speaks of "eight souls" being saved in the ark; we talk of "lost souls." We mean actual people. "Soul" also means the heart or will, depending upon the context. But NEVER does it mean an immortal part of a person. The soul is NOT something separate from man. Man is composed of a body and the breath of life. When man dies, the breath of life goes back to God and the body goes back to the earth. But the essence of each personality is retained in heaven, and when we are resurrected, that personality will be intact in us through the power of God, who loves each of us in our individuality.
Indeed, nothing about humans is immortal. The Bible teaches God alone "hath immortality." We are to SEEK for it, because we do not automatically have it. ". . . Them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life." Romans 2:7. And if those who are raised in the first resurrection, it is written, "For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality." I Cor 15:53.
So we rest or "sleep" in our graves till Jesus raises us in either the first resurrection, the "resurrection of [eternal] life" or the second resurrection, "the resurrection of damnation." The first one gives us eternal life; the second one gives us eternal death in the lake of fire. That is what is referred to in John 3:16 when it says we either "perish" or have "eternal life." Those are our two choices. God will grant us what we have chosen.
And if we are raised either to "life" or "damnation," that means that BEFORE we are raised, judgment must have occurred in heaven. Otherwise, how would it be known who would be raised in which resurrection? That's why Jesus said in Revelation 22:12, "Behold I come quickly, and my reward is with me." When He comes in the Second Coming to wake His sleeping faithful and take His people back to heaven, the judgment has been decided. He comes with each person's reward, for good or for ill, depending on the choices we have made in preparation for this very event.
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What are the Lost Books of the Bible and why does the Catholic Bible have more books than the King James Version (Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 2 Maccabees, Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach and Baruch)? I was told these books explain the immortality of the soul.
A group of books often called “lost books” is also known as the Apocrypha. While the pseudepigraphical books were written within 200 years of the time of Christ (centered on the New Testament time period), the apocryphal books were written during the period of the Old Testament, but long after the original Old Testament Scriptures were completed.
As far as why books like these were not included in the Bible, I would invite you to study how the Old and New Testaments were compiled. The Canon of Scripture was not just thrown together as you know, but very devout men of God were led by the Holy Spirit not only in the writing of it but in the compiling as well. New Testament letters and books were only accepted by the early church if they (1) were written by someone who knew Jesus or was very close to someone who was (like Mark or Luke) and (2) the writing must be in agreement with the teachings of Jesus Himself.
The apocryphal books are rejected by both Jewish and Protestant scholars, but widely accepted by Roman Catholic scholars. The books include portions that support justification for both suicide and assassination, lying if the end justifies the means, prayers for the dead, belief in purgatory, immortality of the soul, and worship of idols. These and many other doctrines are acceptable to Roman Catholic theologians largely because the Roman Catholic Church accepts tradition as having equal authority with Scripture. Protestants, who respect only Scripture as the ground for belief, do not accept these writings. The teaching of immorality of the Soul is from ancient Sun worship and is from the heathen religions of Egypt and Babylon. The Apocryphal books have writings that clearly go against the teachings of scripture.
None of these books call themselves inspired by God. Also, the suggested authors often did not live in the same era the books came about. Even the early Church believed these books to be fraudulent, and did not give them the same authority as the inspired Scriptures.
Here is a link that speaks more on this subject. http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_Bible_Lost-Books_Gospel
Here are some examples of the clashes in doctrine between the Apocrypha and the true Word of God: http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_Bible_Canon_Apocrypha
Here is a link that talks about different aspects of the Bible and the study of it.
The phrase “lost books of the Bible” fills our minds with romantic images of dusty parchments and scrolls found by an Indiana Jones-style archeologist in an ancient tomb. However, in reality all the “lost books” can be readily named and have been known by the Church for centuries. They shouldn't really be called lost at all. The books you mentioned are part of a collection of books we call the Pseudepigrapha The Oxford American Dictionary notes the word originated in the 17th century from the Greek pseudepigrapha, which literally means “with false title”.
Some people who doubt the validity of the Bible feel that these books pose a valid counter to the present makeup of the Bible. They say that because the Pseudepigrapha contains content that counters the existing canon, the decision to exclude the lost books is biased.
Some books have strong support from modern sources, such as the support the “Gospel of Judas” recently enjoyed from National Geographic. Yet all of them were written long after the original New Testament canon had been closed. These books were never accepted as genuine by the early Church fathers.
The Church believes that Jewish and Christian writers were guided by the Holy Spirit (as 2 Peter 1:20-21 states) in the selection of the Scriptures that became the Old and New Testaments. Beyond this guidance, there were other factors that helped determine the validity of a book:
• The book had to be written by a prophet (someone with the gift of prophecy, such as David, Solomon, and Ezra) or an apostle (someone who actually witnessed the risen Christ). The book would have the authenticity and authority its author had.
• Early Church fathers such as Polycarp, Justin Martyr, Tertullian, Origen, Eusebius, Athanasius, Jerome, and Augustine lead in the slow careful acceptance of a book as Scripture. Contrary to popular bestsellers (such as Da Vinci Code) the Church never had a meeting where the Scriptures were autocratically decided upon and then forced upon the rest of the Church.
Instead, the books belonging to Scripture were determined by long and continuous use by both Church leaders and members. Many books were accepted due to the great influence the book was shown to have over the lives of the people. Some books were accepted because the Church members themselves could testify how God used the book to draw many to Him and change their lives.
• Many books were rejected because they supported pagan doctrines denounced by the early Church as unbiblical. Many taught strange doctrines that promoted the Gnostic concept of salvation through "hidden knowledge." Some books taught that Christ was not really human and did not really die on the cross. Such books could not be accepted by the Church because they were contrary to evidence.
In a nutshell, these books were not accepted, because church leaders through the guidance of the Holy Spirit could not justify the validity, or the doctrinal aspect of these books, and include them into the Bible canon.